Comments on: OtoRevo creates a music industry first? http://www.ejovi.net/2007/12/09/creating-a-business-people-care-about/ Mon, 06 Oct 2008 19:33:25 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Paul Cohen http://www.ejovi.net/2007/12/09/creating-a-business-people-care-about/#comment-135268 Paul Cohen Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:00:04 +0000 http://www.ejovi.net/2007/12/09/creating-a-business-people-care-about/#comment-135268 OtoRevo creates a music industry first? or "if you can assure the artist deal containing 30% share for CD or physical material sales and 50% share for download sales it could be revolutionary." says GT? I think I'd have to side with GT. I applaude what you are trying to do, trying to innovate inside the belly of the dying beast that is the old paradigm record industry, but if there is any first it may just be that it was outsourcing A&R to the community a la SNS Idol. Now if you had a data mining bots trawling the web to do statistical quant analysis across the data cloud of indie music communities playlists, auto downloading the demos for audio fingerprinting and input into AI taste recommendation systems you could get rid of the time wasting user voting part completely! That would be a first! [Not quite joking though, as people are working on these components already] Back to the story->Has anthing else changed for the artist(s) in this record deal? or is it more of the same as GT implies, or a varient of the new 360 deals that no artist in their right mind would sign in todays environment? Best of luck, though. At least you are trying something, which is way more than some of the lables. I fully agree with your final point of "and the need to change the old way of thinking that risks crippling the music industry." but I think it's the record industry that is dying, not the music industry;-) I look forward to reading more about phase 2, it sounds interesting. Would you have a link to the Nikkei Shimbun article? Cheers, Paul OtoRevo creates a music industry first?
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“if you can assure the artist deal containing 30% share for CD or physical material sales and 50% share for download sales it could be revolutionary.” says GT?

I think I’d have to side with GT.

I applaude what you are trying to do, trying to innovate inside the belly of the dying beast that is the old paradigm record industry, but if there is any first it may just be that it was outsourcing A&R to the community a la SNS Idol.

Now if you had a data mining bots trawling the web to do statistical quant analysis across the data cloud of indie music communities playlists, auto downloading the demos for audio fingerprinting and input into AI taste recommendation systems you could get rid of the time wasting user voting part completely! That would be a first!
[Not quite joking though, as people are working on these components already]

Back to the story->Has anthing else changed for the artist(s) in this record deal? or is it more of the same as GT implies, or a varient of the new 360 deals that no artist in their right mind would sign in todays environment?

Best of luck, though. At least you are trying something, which is way more than some of the lables.

I fully agree with your final point of “and the need to change the old way of thinking that risks crippling the music industry.” but I think it’s the record industry that is dying, not the music industry;-)

I look forward to reading more about phase 2, it sounds interesting.
Would you have a link to the Nikkei Shimbun article?

Cheers,
Paul

]]> By: gt http://www.ejovi.net/2007/12/09/creating-a-business-people-care-about/#comment-126743 gt Tue, 25 Dec 2007 05:31:41 +0000 http://www.ejovi.net/2007/12/09/creating-a-business-people-care-about/#comment-126743 I think that if you like to continue Otorevo then your next challenge might be this: "to change the way how much share of sales an artist can get". actually while I was trying to cook up Otorevo proposal further I stumbled on this. because there were stories about Radio Head and Amie Street, now there's even Amie Street Japan started, but this project not tackling this issue yet. if the selected artist's record deal could give then same old 10% around royalty share, that's indicate there has been nothing changed from the old way of record industry. if you can assure the artist deal containing 30% share for CD or physical material sales and 50% share for download sales it could be revolutionary. I think that if you like to continue Otorevo then your next challenge might be this: “to change the way how much share of sales an artist can get”.

actually while I was trying to cook up Otorevo proposal further I stumbled on this. because there were stories about Radio Head and Amie Street, now there’s even Amie Street Japan started, but this project not tackling this issue yet. if the selected artist’s record deal could give then same old 10% around royalty share, that’s indicate there has been nothing changed from the old way of record industry. if you can assure the artist deal containing 30% share for CD or physical material sales and 50% share for download sales it could be revolutionary.

]]> By: Chris_B http://www.ejovi.net/2007/12/09/creating-a-business-people-care-about/#comment-122471 Chris_B Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:45:17 +0000 http://www.ejovi.net/2007/12/09/creating-a-business-people-care-about/#comment-122471 That sounds really cool actually. BTW I've got an idea for something which may or may not connect to OtoRevo, If you have some time I want to talk to you about it. Unfortunately I cant find your keitei number, if you have my new one give me a call when you can. That sounds really cool actually. BTW I’ve got an idea for something which may or may not connect to OtoRevo, If you have some time I want to talk to you about it. Unfortunately I cant find your keitei number, if you have my new one give me a call when you can.

]]> By: Paul http://www.ejovi.net/2007/12/09/creating-a-business-people-care-about/#comment-122367 Paul Mon, 10 Dec 2007 01:42:45 +0000 http://www.ejovi.net/2007/12/09/creating-a-business-people-care-about/#comment-122367 Hi Ejovi, Congratulations on an industry first and looking forward to the next step! It's been interesting following your thoughts over the length of the project. Very impressed with what you managed to do here in Japan. I feel particularly close to what you are trying to do because of one of our projects TokyoArtBeat.com, a non-profit, partly volunteer-powered project to list all of the art and design events of the Tokyo area in English and Japanese to let people choose for themselves and recommend to other users the best cultural events that are on offer. I hope you manage to take a break and relax. And if you happen to come to the kudanshita area, it would be a pleasure to invite you for lunch. best, Paul Hi Ejovi,

Congratulations on an industry first and looking forward to the next step!
It’s been interesting following your thoughts over the length of the project. Very impressed with what you managed to do here in Japan.
I feel particularly close to what you are trying to do because of one of our projects TokyoArtBeat.com, a non-profit, partly volunteer-powered project to list all of the art and design events of the Tokyo area in English and Japanese to let people choose for themselves and recommend to other users the best cultural events that are on offer.

I hope you manage to take a break and relax. And if you happen to come to the kudanshita area, it would be a pleasure to invite you for lunch.
best,
Paul

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