Obama and Clinton
I’m not a major politicker here but as you can see from my archives I do talk about politics when the time calls for it. Today I had a online discussion about what a Obama and Clinton campaign would look like and if it could work.
I think Clinton & Obama ticket could work out. In all likelihood the two would agree that the person with the most political experience should be the President. Clinton is much more of a moderate/conservative than Obama who has very progressive and populist ideas about how government should work. Bill Clinton was the founder of the DLC a moderate group of Democrats so its safe to assume Hillary Clinton has been strongly influenced by the groups thinking and policies. Hillary Clinton had no issue winning the Senate seat in NY, despite what most people think of NYC, New York State is a fairly conservative state.
My point is that Clinton has strong moderate credentials. Obama has a great grass roots, progressive following. This combination is really the best of both worlds. To clearly see the value in it you have to ignore the fact that one is a woman and one is black. That aside, politically speaking, this is the type of moderate-liberal combination usually needed to win national campaigns. They are also geographicly dispersed which helps.
The timing for a Clinton & Obama ticket is just right because people are looking for a dramatic change. After the last eight years both Republicans and Democrats alike want something new. Historically, leaving one extreme usually means leaning towards another extreme. I’m not predicting they will actually join or they will actually win since the election is still two years away and a lot of things can happen in two years. But all things considered, it could work.
April 11th, 2007 at 5:21 am
Interesting idea, its been bouncing around for a bit now. For me, it has nothing to do with either gender or ethnicity, I couldnt vote for that ticket. I just dont trust hillary at all.
April 11th, 2007 at 12:25 pm
By “the person with the most political experience should be the President” you must mean Obama, so this would be an Obama/Clinton ticket and not the other way around.
Obama has been in Gov. for ten years while Hillary has only 6 years experience. Obama has 4 campaigns under his belt while Hillary has only two.
I don’t know why people continue to want to give Hillary credit for her husbands experience and accomplishments. It’s only in politics that we do this. Is it some sort of holdover from the days of royalty?
Hillary is the Democratic parties version of GWB. When GWB ran for Gov. of Texas he had no credentials or experience–but his last name was Bush so he won. When Hillary ran for the NY Senate seat she had no credentials or experience–but her last name is Clinton, so she won. When Bush ran for President he became the instant frontrunner because his last name is Bush. When Hillary decided to run for President she became the instant frontrunner because her last name is Clinton.
In Bill Clintons first Presidential run they promised that Hillary would virtually be a part of his cabinet, but that’s not how it turned out. She screwed up the first, and only, job he gave her so badly she helped usher in the Republican revolution of ‘94. She screwed it up so badly that it’s only now, 14 years later, that anyones willing to talk about universal helath care again. She screwed up so badly she never again played any role in her husbands administration besides the traditional First Lady role of ‘Hostess n chief.’
April 11th, 2007 at 2:50 pm
Obama’s organizational skills have been blowing people away. He simply seems to be the most skilled candidate. No doubt, he has some rough spots in his past, but I can see him finding a way around those questions by not dodging them.
I sort of agree with Chris - Hillary is hard to trust for some reason. I still think the candidate will be someone we don’t see yet as a front runner. Obama/Edwards might excite me more…but I don’t really trust Edwards either. Obama/Richardson would be even better, though I’m not sure if he has the household name potential.
April 11th, 2007 at 5:40 pm
I’ve heard the same thing about Hillary. I was one of the few people who was upset when she settled in NY for the sole purpose of running for Senate and setting up her Presidential run.
April 12th, 2007 at 2:36 am
I think a lot of people have been thinking about this topic. I really think that the VP in this election will play a critical role. I would really like to see Wesley Clark run with Obama. He could add the international diplomatic credentials and experience that Obama is criticized for not having.
April 13th, 2007 at 1:51 am
Mystylplx,
1) Being in state senate is generally not considered the level of experience needed to run an entire country
2) Being a US senator for 7 years, married to the President, former governer and having a role in the whitehouse is not the same as being the son of the President.
I’m not saying Hillary has amazing experience, but her involvement and experience in politics vastly dwarfs that of Obama’s. Its really no comparison.
April 13th, 2007 at 10:31 am
Her being a carpetbagger has something to do with me not trusting her. And yes someone on the ticket with foreign policy experience would be persuasive. Oh and someone actually in favor of trade, not beholden to unions.
November 20th, 2007 at 12:04 am
As much as I’d like to see a woman president, I don’t trust Hillary as far as I can throw her.