Comments on: Community Internet? http://blog.ejovi.net/2006/02/02/community-internet/ Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:58:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Oliver Thylmann’s Thoughts » Cheap Nocat http://blog.ejovi.net/2006/02/02/community-internet/#comment-22544 Oliver Thylmann’s Thoughts » Cheap Nocat Tue, 03 Oct 2006 17:00:54 +0000 http://www.ejovi.net/2006/02/02/community-internet/#comment-22544 [...] Ejovi has a good post entitled Community Internet? showing what can be possible with the help of a movement like FON. His idea is to internet enable harlem via giving away FON enabled nocat routers for people that have internet access, giving free access to all that want to. This could really bring the Internet to a lot more people. [...] [...] Ejovi has a good post entitled Community Internet? showing what can be possible with the help of a movement like FON. His idea is to internet enable harlem via giving away FON enabled nocat routers for people that have internet access, giving free access to all that want to. This could really bring the Internet to a lot more people. [...]

]]> By: myWIFIzone http://blog.ejovi.net/2006/02/02/community-internet/#comment-1776 myWIFIzone Thu, 23 Feb 2006 21:48:18 +0000 http://www.ejovi.net/2006/02/02/community-internet/#comment-1776 Sounds good - you have to balance "open wireless" with the concept of "sharing with trusted users". We're trying to take a similar approach with our recently launched Captive Portal services. Sounds good - you have to balance “open wireless” with the concept of “sharing with trusted users”. We’re trying to take a similar approach with our recently launched Captive Portal services.

]]> By: Oliver Thylmann - Thoughts http://blog.ejovi.net/2006/02/02/community-internet/#comment-1482 Oliver Thylmann - Thoughts Mon, 06 Feb 2006 13:28:23 +0000 http://www.ejovi.net/2006/02/02/community-internet/#comment-1482 <strong>Cheap Nocat</strong> Ejovi has a good post entitled Community Internet? showing what can be possible with the help of a movement like FON. His idea is to internet enable harlem via giving away FON enabled nocat routers for people that have internet Cheap Nocat

Ejovi has a good post entitled Community Internet? showing what can be possible with the help of a movement like FON. His idea is to internet enable harlem via giving away FON enabled nocat routers for people that have internet

]]> By: Pablo Baqués http://blog.ejovi.net/2006/02/02/community-internet/#comment-1157 Pablo Baqués Sun, 05 Feb 2006 04:06:54 +0000 http://www.ejovi.net/2006/02/02/community-internet/#comment-1157 Ejovi, The comments above point to a single very real challenge: to preserve and protect FON's image and the noble intention behind The Harlem Project. The last thing you need is the technology or the possibilities you offer appearing as catalysts of issues that we all know go on all the time, as Kenai says. Once that same issue is going on near or around FON, all you need is a reporter hungry for a story, or politically motivated against Martin/you/blacks/jews/whoknowswhat, or just a knitwit, ... and KABOOOOOMM!!! ...once the story is told, there is no retelling. I see it as a muddy puddle near the sidewalk. Cars go by all the time, and splash pedestrians. We ALL know this is a problem. We ALL know this needs fixing. Now: would you stand near the puddle in a white suit?... and let the photographer standing by take your picture after you get splashed? When you and I met at TeaLuxe on Newbury Street in Boston last December, I described some ideas which should come in very handy now. I hope you can relay them to FON, and that you and I can revisit them again soon. I hope you have a FUON time in California. Pablo Ejovi,

The comments above point to a single very real challenge: to preserve and protect FON’s image and the noble intention behind The Harlem Project. The last thing you need is the technology or the possibilities you offer appearing as catalysts of issues that we all know go on all the time, as Kenai says. Once that same issue is going on near or around FON, all you need is a reporter hungry for a story, or politically motivated against Martin/you/blacks/jews/whoknowswhat, or just a knitwit, … and KABOOOOOMM!!! …once the story is told, there is no retelling.

I see it as a muddy puddle near the sidewalk. Cars go by all the time, and splash pedestrians. We ALL know this is a problem. We ALL know this needs fixing. Now: would you stand near the puddle in a white suit?… and let the photographer standing by take your picture after you get splashed?

When you and I met at TeaLuxe on Newbury Street in Boston last December, I described some ideas which should come in very handy now. I hope you can relay them to FON, and that you and I can revisit them again soon.

I hope you have a FUON time in California.

Pablo

]]> By: Kenai http://blog.ejovi.net/2006/02/02/community-internet/#comment-1155 Kenai Sat, 04 Feb 2006 05:50:59 +0000 http://www.ejovi.net/2006/02/02/community-internet/#comment-1155 I think that the concept is wonderful, however, to give an entire community free internet access obviously has its pros and cons. First, for those who would use the access constructively, this may be the proverbial ship that has finally come in. On the other hand you may open can of worms in regards to illegal downloading, internet predators, identity theft, etc. True, this type of thing will go on regardless of the this project, but how would it feel to be indirectly responsible for (fill in the blank)? I'm sure you have some deep philosophical reasoning for wanting to do something like this, perhaps the lack of opportunity in the Black community contrasted by the enormous potential for opportunity that the internet brings; it seems like a logical solution... and it is. Maybe we should all purchase some BlackPlanet stock... (bad joke) Are you related to Talib Kweli? I think that the concept is wonderful, however, to give an entire community free internet access obviously has its pros and cons. First, for those who would use the access constructively, this may be the proverbial ship that has finally come in. On the other hand you may open can of worms in regards to illegal downloading, internet predators, identity theft, etc. True, this type of thing will go on regardless of the this project, but how would it feel to be indirectly responsible for (fill in the blank)? I’m sure you have some deep philosophical reasoning for wanting to do something like this, perhaps the lack of opportunity in the Black community contrasted by the enormous potential for opportunity that the internet brings; it seems like a logical solution… and it is. Maybe we should all purchase some BlackPlanet stock… (bad joke) Are you related to Talib Kweli?

]]> By: Isaac http://blog.ejovi.net/2006/02/02/community-internet/#comment-1152 Isaac Fri, 03 Feb 2006 20:43:46 +0000 http://www.ejovi.net/2006/02/02/community-internet/#comment-1152 Very good idea in regards to providing community internet. I believe that the clients housing the AP's can sign an acceptance agreemnent as stated above and that would probably secure the hardware. What about securing the actual networks and the clients personal computers? I realize individuals would require an account to connect, but will clients using AP's on their personal networks be informed about securing thier personal computers? Very good idea in regards to providing community internet. I believe that the clients housing the AP’s can sign an acceptance agreemnent as stated above and that would probably secure the hardware. What about securing the actual networks and the clients personal computers? I realize individuals would require an account to connect, but will clients using AP’s on their personal networks be informed about securing thier personal computers?

]]> By: rmangi http://blog.ejovi.net/2006/02/02/community-internet/#comment-1151 rmangi Fri, 03 Feb 2006 16:14:53 +0000 http://www.ejovi.net/2006/02/02/community-internet/#comment-1151 It's a great idea. A few cities have been trying something similar but having local busineses provide the connections. Everyone deserves access. It’s a great idea. A few cities have been trying something similar but having local busineses provide the connections. Everyone deserves access.

]]> By: Courtney http://blog.ejovi.net/2006/02/02/community-internet/#comment-1150 Courtney Fri, 03 Feb 2006 13:50:17 +0000 http://www.ejovi.net/2006/02/02/community-internet/#comment-1150 I'd have the same reservations as K.Brown. How would the 1k very trustworthy/responsible residents be selected? Possibly have them agree to sign an acceptance of liability for the equipment in exchange for the free connectivity? I’d have the same reservations as K.Brown. How would the 1k very trustworthy/responsible residents be selected? Possibly have them agree to sign an acceptance of liability for the equipment in exchange for the free connectivity?

]]> By: K.Brown http://blog.ejovi.net/2006/02/02/community-internet/#comment-1053 K.Brown Thu, 02 Feb 2006 18:59:44 +0000 http://www.ejovi.net/2006/02/02/community-internet/#comment-1053 I think it's a good idea and will work if the people and businesses of Harlem are aware of the potential that the internet has to offer. Having individuals personally responsible for free but sellable hardware can be risky though. But that's just my 2 cents. I think it’s a good idea and will work if the people and businesses of Harlem are aware of the potential that the internet has to offer. Having individuals personally responsible for free but sellable hardware can be risky though. But that’s just my 2 cents.

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